Theres a schism in the church; those who believe Acts was for that time only, and those who believe that the empowerment that happened in Acts is for the churchs lifetime until He returns. Amen., jda016 Jonathon, at one time B.Johnson of Bethel, denied the deity of Christ Jesus our Lord thereby teaching a false christ, a different Jesus. I can perform this trick myself. I am also sad to report that I knew a man whose wife was dying of cancer. Tell me from Gods word why it is wrong to test the spirits? For those who accuse us of being guilty for following and receiving the Holy Scriptures promise in Acts, then we guilty as charged. Amen watchful that is exactly my hope and prayer.. . These are those who are like back-seat drivers; they love to stereotype and put all healing gifters into the same box. I may have been a bit unclear in my position regarding what Chas 351 has said. Jesus tempered the enthusiasm of the disciples by saying not to rejoice in the demons submitting to us but to only rejoice that our names be written in the Lambs book of life. Averyl, I also missed Randall & his posts. Just because Torben says he is doing this in the name of Jesus, doesnt mean he is actually doing it in the name of Jesus. Bill Johnsons ministry could not save her and she died. Jesus has slowly turned that mass to water and graciously and slowly filled that dear womans bladder with that water!!! Personally i believe the great commission reflects the exact words used by Holy Spirit though Peter in Act 2:37-38, because those Jews were Cut to the heart(Joe 2:13), their only hope was to Jhn 17:14 NASB I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. OFFICIAL UPDATE ON TORBEN SONDERGAARD: January 17, 2023. So I would like to ask you about a danish evangelist Torben Sondergaard. Marie, i agree, there are people like what you describe. I would have liked to post what God showed me about Emma the angel being a demon. So true about trying to put each other into boxes or us having to do such & such etc. Updated 7 Dec, 2020. This is the church! Synonym Discussion of WEIRD A very dangerous cynicism takes hold at that point. Yet, what I did, I did in the Holy NAME of JESUS, under the authority of the Son of God, the Lamb of God, the remitter of my sins, and the only NAME wherein we can be saved. Dit is jammer dat jy nie vanuit my, Seeing that you are in South Africa, and you and, Hullo Tom. On the contrary, Im sure you hope and pray as I do that they will be aware of and resist the wiles of the adversary and remain in the humble simplicity of Christ, amen! Because of Jesus i: Just like Jesus did with his own disciples. Though we may not be able to pull up scriptures on the fly, well know something is wrong when we see it. His mother really meant a lot to him and when he heard this bad news he cried and cried and then he prayed to God. I find that rather humorous, considering I have seen the things of the Spirit, and believed in the moving of Gods Spirit, since I was 8-10 years old. Torben Sondergaard is married to his beautiful wife, Lene Sondergaard. `And beginning with Moses & with all the prophets, He (Jesus) explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the scriptures.` (Luke 24: 27). Past revivals, like doves dung, are excellent fertilizer as we study its revelations, but we are to SEEK FRESH REVELATION in each generation. But some people who saw the video We need Bible-based Spirit-filled believers who know how to lead in love and truth, not arrogantly or obsessively and not teaching junk food. God is everywhereeven in the news. The things of God are too precious to be treated as common. You will see it works. We are not pulling down anyone. In the NT, Jesus is dealing with 1 demoniac at a time.in one instance (the herd of pigs incident) there were 2 demoniacs. NO-ONE HAS GOT IT ALL YET. We are living in a dark age where sin and selfishness have been taking over the church. Let Gods holy fire and righteousness blaze like a torch A Florida immigration judge has denied evangelist Torben Sndergaard's request for asylum. Upon Sndergaard's arrival in the U.S. in 2019, he immediately applied for asylum and set up his residence in California while he grew his ministry. Its very alarming that so many Christians are following this man. Yet there is unity in this diversity, as long as we see Christ Jesus our Lord as the reason for our unity. This is the understanding that GOD gave me, it is not of myself because I didnt have a clue. I simply yielded to what Jesus wanted to do in that household! Because you will be lying to yourself and worst of all God Himself. INTERVIEW WITH DR. BROWN That is a place where the sick could experience salvation and healing. They also love to twist Gods word! Sectarians are those who would make fellowship with Christ their exclusive privilege. I love HIM even more. USURPING the role of the Holy Spirit is very dangerous for ones health and welfare.check the scriptures. A glory cloud rose up at Johnsons church (there is even a youtube video of it) which many say was Gods glory falling and others showed it to be just glitter ( I think of Gods glory falling in past revivals and before Israel and how it brought their faces to the floor). You know where I think people get this idea.from watching TV evangelists. I think for me the times when I am like the disciples who were arguing I personally have been most apt to get into debate about this issue is when I am not in the game as much as I would like to be . Torben is actually seeing it work IN PRACTICE. Johnathan Isreal- I am not ashamed to take the Lords name Christian you can say it was a handle the worldly people mockingly gave to the early followers of Jesus Christ if you want ( I doubt you are right about that enormous leap of assumption as the text does not say what you so dogmatically assume. However, I watched the second video first. I will post a few excerpts from the book Your Power In The Holy Spirit by John G Lake, who I personally believe was a man used mightily by God to advance His Kingdom in the early 1900s. For what? He feels the solitude of the leper`s loneliness & The Holy Spirit will prepare that soil ACCORDING to what works with that particular person. I see and hear more flattery than encouragement. Street preacher accused of smuggling arms from Mexico. And so, he just did what the bible said for him to do. VOILA.hundreds of people come forward in 1 hour! Ive been porn and masturbation free from that very day. Deliverance and healing all at once on a whole congregation of people? We never see any of the apostles commissioning new believers to go out and do this. The term Full Gospel (Pentecostalism) does not mean the full gospel of the bible, but the full gospel of all so called Christian faiths mingled into one, including Calvinism this is why its so easy for someone to fall from Pentecostalism into Calvinism (NG Kerk) and Calvinism back into Pentecostalism because the doctrine of ELECTION is present in both movements. Especially when it starts out with leg lengthening which seems to have been one of the frauds / hucksters favorite tricks. Amen, Marilyn..this is just something I have been becoming more aware of in recent times. Sadly, it is no miracle. Torben Sndergaard is part of the Oneness Pentecostal sect. 38 And now I say to you, keep away from these men and let them alone; for if this plan or this work is of men, it will come to nothing; 39 but if it is of God, you cannot overthrow itlest you even be found to fight against God.. Jesus also REVEALS TRUE FAITH in His Prayer to His Father for ALL of us. The fact that He never did such things was not simply that He wanted to make his followers honest and sincere, but also because He was communicating Life, and building a kingdom not of this world or according to its principles. People can either answer yes I do what The Lord tells me to do , or then whatever they say , whatever it may sound like , they are really saying no I do not do everything The Lord tells me to do. I have just posted How about this MAGIC TRICK: FINDING A GOLD COIN IN A FISHS MOUTH! He carries the burden of a broken heart. Just like Jesus did with his own disciples. Jesus had no thought of creating an organization or formal group around Himself, nor did he teach disciples to form any such organized group. Well Lightning Storm, all I will say is that Pauls concern for the church turned out well in that it prompted him to warn and share many good truths with them, which we still benefit from today.blessings to you and good night, Im off to bed now. At that instant, I observed my friend was motioning me to come and join him in prayer for the woman who was sick. Rather than analyse I know that I was once lost, repented, baptized and filled with His Spirit and, like Torden and his friend on the video said, we not only hear the Word, but we see the evidence of the Word. The government then investigated the Sndergaard family when they began homeschooling. Attacks against his ministry in Denmark began in 2016,when the Jesus Center was investigated by six different Danish government agencies for everything from food safety to unpaid taxes. Sndergaard's attorneys are filing an appeal. My initial reaction of the first video is that it is a hoax. Just as God turns unrepentant sinners over to their sins, He will send strong delusion to those who want to be deceived. I believe that our God is a might God who is 100% sovereign over everything, including life and death. Jesus often did. Within a few minutes I felt a deep concern and compassion rise up inside of me and found my self spontaneously and effortlessly inquiring of the ladies health condition. Do you think because you read the bible that if you saw a man calling Himself Jesus, this very day, YOU WOULD BELIEVE IT WAS HIM? My point is that I think it disappointing when someone wants to genuinely and biblically, test the spirits, and they are met with personal attacks rather than answering the genuine questions that are being raised. Remember Moses staff and miracles brother? Last point, going back to the Pharisees, it seems to me that Jesus said that sins against the Son of Man would be forgiven but that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit wouldnt be. Would love your thoughts, please comment. Torben dunks these people in trash cans how insulting!Those that defend this man, are his Cult Members and they have no problem threatening those that speak out against him. If he performs miracles and preaches a false gospel of self effort religion, harsh treatment of the body , self imposed religiosity and legalism INSTEAD OF THE FAITH IN THE CROSS PLUS NOTHING THAT MAN IS A WOLF! I can understand that. Why there are so many conflicting statements here on the blog & not always the truth is that people have not been taught how God desires His Word to be interpreted. 1 Corinthians 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.. This was Torontos biggest probblem as far as Im concerned, I was there and saw it. In 2015, Torben Sndergaard quoted this as a prediction of Torben Sndergaards own work in Denmark: 10 years ago, a man came from the US to Denmark with a prophetic word to us our country. 23:25). Share on whatsapp. I am currently looking for people who got involved in The Last Reformation or with Torben Sondergaard (its leader). Han er stifter og talsperson for "The Last Reformation" med titusindvis af flgere. Why is there so many reference in the NT of God using blood(death) & water(life) from the OT in making a covenant with His people? How different Jesus was from those sectarians who, like the Scribes and Pharisees, search sea and land to make a member of their group, only to make him twice as much the child of Hell as themselves (Matt. I do not see anything wrong with what they are doing. Were the Hebrews experiencing New Age phenomena in the wilderness? It is good to testify, in simplicity, and as the Lord leads when it is seemly and glorifying to Him, but it is not for us to try and make it into something. Yesterday I posted some advice to these dear brothers to run away from the spotlight, from cameras, and from those who would try to make them kings, but it looks like I may have forgotten to hit the send buttonthat was the wisdom the Lord gave to me in a flash yesterday and sought to share it. If legs are lengthened, I say, Halleluia and thank you Jesus. Thats why we view every news story through the lens of faith. Like Barry said, examine the fruit to see whether it is good or bad. How about an ordinary man/woman telling people that they saw and went into HEAVEN and saw all these different many headed beasts and angels and chariots of fire? Torben Sondergaard is a Danish pastor who is facing extraordinary persecution for exercising his Christian faith. No believer who reads their bible would believe that person. He was not acting like the King of the Jews. Jesus did a lot of disappearing acts.TELEPORTATION. Somebody asked about Bill Johnson He is the current Mayor of WIERDSVILLE or at least Deputy Mayor! Or, would he just rebuke the illness, and be on to the next person? Leg lengthening WAS AND IS GODS IDEA NOT THE WORLDS IDEA! Can look my daughters and my wife in the eye. When I have worked in our garden the whole day, my body picks up dirt, mud and muck and do not need to go to Jesus to ask Him to cleanse me. I would point also to Mathew 24:24 where Jesus says that even the elect will be deceived by false prophets performing signs and wonders. We know from scripture what God thinks of hybrids/mixtures, so we are not to touch the unclean thing but come out of there. Oh and Moses staff turned into a snake. b) caring or providing for. A new Spirit-one that is more interested in making men thrilled and exhilaerated than in making men holy and heavenly minded and a new hope a hope in this world and in this age- where believers will rule and reign in this present dark age rather than the blessed hope the glorious appearing of The Lord Jesus Christ from heaven and the hope in the life to come which declares , if for this life only we have hope we of all men are to be most pitied .. totally normal part of everyday Christian life. Based on just the video alone, we cannot verify whether these healings are genuine or not. Those who want to be deceived will be deceived. Torben Sondergaard was born in 1976 into a non-Christian family. I received a comment from a Discerning the World reader who said: I have just found this page recently and I find it very interesting. Home. And they said, To Johns baptism. Torben Sondergaard is a Danish pastor who is facing extraordinary persecution for exercising his Christian faith. Yes, I do, but when I say I try to, that means in my mind that I realize that there will be times I will fail. Sndergaard also read scripture as part of his defense to show how he was following Christ's commands, making the Bible part of the case record. The Hebrews had been praying for over 400 years and received no freedom from their judgment of slaverythey were filled with UNBELIEF. happening. However, when I have sinned and defiled my soul, I MUST go to Jesus and plead with Him to wash me with his blood. New Testament Christianity right before your eyes. I am beginning to think you are bragging and, Brother Tom; Here is another passage from Scriptures that also, The Fruit of the Spirit is listed in Galatians 5love,, I am not saying you highlighting false teaching or false, ChosenJulia, would you say that Hebrews 6 confirms or denies, My dear brother Tom, The passage in which you are, Sister Deborah; I disagree with your answer to whether or, Dear Chosen Julia A born again Christian can't lose their, Dear Jan-Hendrik Schreuder Not sure which article you posted your, Kevin E Curtis. Cynicism is the mask of discernment hiding a heart of bitterness and unbelief . They are all in a web of deception. Share on pocket. Sorry for hogging the comments here but I cant shut this in or I will explode I to flames !! Your important statement, `the simplicity of Christ,` leads us to the very first Key. Ive only brought a dose of reality to the discussions, with some serious, and important, things to think about. ha ha ha The old COIN TRICK! this is new age worship of another false Jesus, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pvdl8HDmkA. Family that arrived later on had a hard time locating him because the hospital administration had no record of him being there. i would be interested in your comments on Isaiah Saldivar who has miracles happening on the streets, in his home and in church. , (John 1:33) And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.. Torben Sondergaard is a self-proclaimed apostle and faith healer from Denmark who claims to receive revelations and visions directly from God. I prevail upon all here not to fall into the ways of the world and engage in these ad hominem attacks. Jhn 17:20 NASB I do not ask on behalf of these ALONE, BUT FOR THOSE ALSO who believe in Me through their word; WHO does the SAVING? I have been greatly encouraged by these videos. Brown Is LIVE on the Line of Fire every Monday - Friday from 3 - 4 PM EST On Facebook and Youtube.Sign Up for Weekly Updates! (2 Corinthians 5:19 NASB), O taste and see that the LORD is good; How blessed is the man who takes refuge in Him! On the Last Reformation website, it is stated, "We believe that the church is facing a new reformation." Specifically, A reformation that will go deeper than any reformation before: away from church traditions, suffocating structures and countless meetings in church buildings. There is no excuse for making such premature judgments and posting them in post after post in public. Remembering that the enemy is subtle, counterfeiting the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. The male, with a recorded age of 45 was arrested for suspicion of the below crimes: Bail has been set to $0 for Soendergaard which is listed as a white male. In 1995, he committed his life to Christ and felt God calling him to ministry. Seeking these bizzare and esoteric psychotic manifestations AS SPIRITUAL AND SIGNS OF THE HOLY SPIRITS PRESENCE AND APPROVAL. Jesus 1st miracle was getting a whole wedding party DRUNK.by turning water into the very best of wines. OFFICIAL UPDATE ON TORBEN SONDERGAARD: January 17, 2023 : Those who have reverence for the Lord live.. USA: 210 Democrats vote against bill requiring.. OFFICIAL UPDATE ON TORBEN SONDERGAARD: January 17, 2023 . Every time they went in to repair damage it was already healed. Start that IN ME MY GOD!!!! Only those who were damned to eternal perdition were baptized (dunked UNDER/IN) the water. I am fortunate to have a dedicated group of believers in my life wherein we hold each other accountable and encourage each other in a daily walk in the spirit. (Luke 5: 13) 4 Then said Paul, John truly baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying to the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. This is not the shekinah glory of God in this video, saying you believe in Jesus and not knowing a demonic false sign is a result of making self your god. The Holy Spirit & His Word agree. fromheaven,orofmen? Leaving them to hunger and thirst after more. If that means I have to stand alone in the face of criticism from those who would call themselves followers of Jesus Christ, then so be it. For behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, And deep darkness the people; But the Lord will arise over you, And His glory will be seen upon you.. There is no such office of healer mentioned in the NT. Since all we have available to us is what is on the video, lets use that and test the spirit we see in the video. The pitfall that the Lord was gracious to show me is a danger that needs to be avoided, its not fear mongering or inappropriate to shine a light on the enemys snares, it is love and concern, not to mention a duty. The rush of power into his person was so great that it caused him to fall on the floor. Jesus so many times told those He had healed to tell no-one. They believe in the Divinity, they must be our brother/sister, right? My answer is simple Jesus never copied ANYONE. i There is a great emphasis in the Last Reformation Movement on feelings and the gifts and their 'model for church' is confined to Acts. In 2003, Torben Sndergaard invited the controversial tele-evangelist and faith healerTodd Bentleyto Denmark[34]. Hi Shaun. But God has` His keys,`for studying His Word. Averyl Randalls PC is down, but he is OK no doubt he will be back soon. (Luke 7: 14) I perceive a very tiny bit of pride, but only the amount I would expect from any believer. I stand by my statements that all the supposed healings in these videos cannot be objectively proven by the video evidence alone. Jesus will outshine all when His servants take their proper place in the kingdom. It is in our HEART how we treat the things of God but that is what repentance is for, and growth. Danish TV infiltrated his ministry with undercover reporters for a documentary titled God's Best Children, which lumped Sndergaard in with other leaders of so-called "radical Christian" ministries who had had serious moral or ethical failures or even criminal activity. Torben Sndergaard is founder of The Last Reformation, a movement that has spread all around the world the last few years. Seymour burst out laughing. I love that statement you said, `the simplicity that is in Christ.` I have no problem with that. He did not create us as clones, but as unique individuals, according to (and for) His pleasure. Torben Sondergaard is a Danish pastor who is facing extraordinary persecution for exercising his Christian faith. I pray that His peace and mercy be upon you and every person that reads your material. Where do you get your identity? 1,664 talking about this. This is what has happened throughout history and is nothing new. All I am doing is fulfilling a biblical duty to test the spirits by asking legitimate questions; yet no one seems to want to acknowledge that and recognize it is our duty to test the spirits. Bob Jones, Bill Johnson, and all these false prophets, teachers, evangelists, etc, are all in cahoots with each other. The fakes and charlatans lengthen legs to try to copy the original healings of God. The government then investigated their family when they began homeschooling. 2. Holy Spirit to death. We should not think more highly of ourselves than we ought. You wrote: Paul was using both water and Spirit so many times in his epistles. Have you forgotten that Paul also said, For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. (1 Corinthians 1:17). In the Name of Jesus, I command this leg to grow out. For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. Jesus said greater works than these shall you do! I see a specific calling for healing on his life for street ministry. Error: There was an internal error submitting your form. Finally we are in Torbin people who move in power in Jesus name who are fully clothed and in their right minds!. Arrested NOT. There are so many trying, Ernie wrote: I am not saying you highlighting false teaching, ChosenJulia. Now that says to me that maybe those people throwing charlatan accusations had best be careful how they choose to voice their skepticism because if this is the work of the Holy Spirit, and I believe it is, then you are in a lot of trouble. Go Torben . Jesus fulfilled both circumcision and baptism. Thats not to say that God wont act through people. It is the If you will analyze that Greek word, you will see it means the life or substance of His being, the quickening, living power of God, the very nature and being of God., Torben is doing what God has commssioned him to do & i think thats Awesome! Note the reference in the NT to the elders laying on of hands on the sick. Sndergaard was arrested on June 30 in Orlando, Florida for "gun smuggling," even though he was never charged with that crime and vehemently denies any such activity. ***In this era ofCENSORSHIP and CANCEL CULTURE, Please sign up forCBN Newslettersto keep receiving the latest news you need.***. JeffM, I believe you misintrepeted my comment about obeying God. Thank you Roger for letting us know he`s OK. Tell him he is missed & know that God is with him. Dont put yourself in the same category of those who want to justify the legitimacy of something by the numbers of people who follow it. a brief video (above) where Torben discusses the amazing things that 3) to fear (i.e. That is why he and I agree on so many things. to become the type that accuses first and asks questions later. And God really isnt interested whether you like what He is doing or not. Amen Roger, good wordsimplicity. He had been criticized about his methods of evangelism. Submitted by escamp on August 31, 2015 - 3:04pm. We are seeing a hunger and thirst for God even though people dont even know what theyre hungry for. Have you ever noticed that Noah and his family were saved THROUGH water and not by being immersed IN water. We warn our children not to do things with their safety in mind but we dont call in fearmongering! Acknowledge means to yada/know Him intimately. Contrary to almost any other Christian denomination, he teaches that salvation for a Christian is completed through baptism in water not using the Trinitarian formula,[19]as well as through baptism in the Holy Spirit with the manifestation of speaking in tongues, often saying dadadaadadadaa.[20][21][22][23][24]He also teaches that just as Jesus received the Holy Spirit through water baptism, it is through baptism that a Christian receives the Holy Spirit. You need to get saved from your unbelief and your incredulity! Share on twitter. ICE did not charge him with "gun smuggling," even though he was initially told this was the reason for his arrest. A friend of mine said that it is unimportant how we baptize our job is just to save sinners. I too have been badly wounded and burned by previous fakes and deceptions- thats no excuse for cynicism. 2Corinth 13:1. My only goal here is to honor and glorify our Lord Jesus, not to attack anyone. TheDude, telling us you are being humble and gracious REAKS of self-righteousness . I hate those gift inventories for this reason. John 9:4 He also began the Jesus Center in Denmark, which trained disciples from 30 nations to spread this message around the world. (Isaiah 60:1-4 KJV) preached. reacted quite badly. I believe they would prefer to keep the status quo going, so that they do not feel compelled to go out in the highways and biways themselves. All others are imitations as Scripture warns. Now was I healed, by the Healer, Lord Jesus (to whom I give all credit, thanks and the glory) because of the leg pulling method, or despite it..? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQrTjbzbByA. Jhn 14:16. `And beginning with Moses & with all the prophets, He explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the scriptures.` Having said that however, God never asks us to throw our common sense out the window. Read and KNOW the scriptures people, for the sake of the Kingdom of God and for the sake of your own selves and your families. "Torben detailed his life in ministry. Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side. Spirit of FIRE enters person and they start to speak in tongues, convulse, jerk, have visions, etc. May we all have the zeal and faith of new believers who havent been tainted by the spirit of religion. Help us continue to be a voice for truth in the media by supporting CBN News for as little as $1. uncanny implies disquieting strangeness or mysteriousness . But it takes a lot of hard work, time, and money to do what we do. average, commonplace, everyday, garden, normal, ordinary, prosaic, routine, run-of-the-mill, standard, typical, unexceptional, unremarkable, usual, workaday; conformist, conservative, conventional; expected, familiar, knee-jerk, predictable; common, customary, frequent, habitual, regular. c) (Piel) to make afraid, terrify Next, Sister Lankford told of the man with no arm. You can be ashamed of that name if you want but I will gladly bear the reproach of that wonderful name any day! Also available on most smart TVs and streaming services. It very well could be true, but the video itself leaves many questions unanswered. Thank you so much Andrew for sharing these videos with us. Those that would criticize any such testing should take a step back and realize there is nothing unbiblical about testing such spirits as long as it is done with the right intent. 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